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Darrin:
Geoff, it has been about 26 years or so since you played a few shows
with the Mob. Did you think that you would still be at it here
nearing the end of 2007?
Geoff: (laughs) Wow, no, you never really think of it as
being a career. It just works out that way. I am VERY glad it did,
and we have had a wonderful career so far. It has been incredibly
challenging and a great learning experience.
Darrin: I am still finding it strange to hear a Queensryche
track on a classic rock station
Geoff: It is a different thing to get used to.
Darrin: 2007 has been a pretty prolific year for Queensryche,
with a ton of touring, releases of Mindcrime at the Moore, Sign Of
The Times, and a 3rd release in early 2008.
Geoff: Yes, and we also have a November release of cover
songs called Take Cover.
Darrin: Is there a reason behind the multitude of releases in
2007?
Geoff: Uh, you know, umm..no! (laughs) I guess when it
rains, it pours. Of course, out main thrust of work has been
capturing and recording Mindcrime at the Moore live, and to go on
the road with the show, performing both records, was really our
endeavor. All of the rest of the stuff started happening probably as
a result of that. Just getting that project done allowed for it.
Darrin: You guys have survived through some pretty extreme
changes in the industry, and you would have known the Seattle/Grunge
scene better than most. That whole movement really took a bite out
of the momentum of metal and rock. It never came back to what it was
pre-90’s. Queensryche has seemed to have been able to maintain a
strong following not in just the European and Japanese market, but
here domestically. What do you see as factors that have helped you
maintain yoru following?
Geoff: Umm, we have just never given in to other people’s
perception of us. I think we can talk about the late 80’s and early
90’s was a time where the record industry was a lot different than
it is now. It has gone through a major, major change. You used to
ship 900,000 to 1,000,000 records when you released an album, and
now, when you ship 10,000 the record company is high fiving each
other and patting each other on the back. The numbers are
drastically different to what they used to be.
We just never gave up touring. We have always seen that as a very
important part of what we do. We tour more now than we used to. We
tour and sell records in 26 countries. We just never stopped. I
credit the success of the band to tenacity. Don’t worry about what
everyone else thinks, just keep moving forward.
Also, you have to look at different ways to market the band.
Darrin: Kind of like Prince, selling out a string of shows in
the UK, where the ticket price covers a copy of the new disc. They
pulled all the discs from the shelves in the UK to make sure the
concerts sold out. I guess that is the opposite, using the disc to
sell shows, than the shows being the vehicle to move albums…
Geoff: Right. Because on one hand, record sales number
shave dried up so drastically, that you have to keep looking for
something new, or you die. You have to be able to invent new ways of
marketing. Nobody is going to do it for you either. The record
companies sure won’t.
Darrin: Are you guys looking more at the digital realm,
digital delivery etc? Perhaps the ability to download all of the
tracks for a release, and the ability to download artwork for it?
Geoff: Yes, and a lot of that is happening now. In fact, a
lot of the things we used to take as standard, such as releasing
Cd’s is going to go to the wayside. You are starting to see less of
that all the time now. It seems the public these days is more geared
to downloading single songs. I think you will start seeing bands
just releasing individual songs over the web.
Darrin: I guess that will be very beneficial to the band, it
is cost effective, to release a song digitally, and not forcing said
band to be segued away for months at a time, and now more able to
get out there and play, and work on other things also.
Geoff: Right! And one thing that I think that happens to
people is that they get discouraged by times changing. They want
things to be the way that they used to be. That is a very
unrealistic way to look at life. Things are always changing. You
have to be versatile and go with the flow and look ahead to see what
is happening and jump on the wave. That just does not happen for a
lot of bands.
In the 90’s it was made clear that a lot of bands just can not play
live. They really depended on the record sales to generate income.
They were having that image to sell, not actual musicianship. So,
with record sales down, bands are having to rely on touring to make
a living. If they can’t play, they can’t tour. (laughs) So, it kind
of weeds them all out.
Darrin: I have to admit that was one of my biggest
issues through the 90’s was the total disregard to playing the
music, the musicianship and dedication to learning one’s
instrument. Sure, it let hacks like me be in a band (laughs) but
something was lost.
And speaking of musicianship and the old days, has there ever again
been any thought put towards the possibility of seeing the Three
Tremors, yourself, Rob Halford and Bruce Dickinson working together?
Geoff: Well, that was actually just dinner conversation,
that kind of got stretched into a sound byte, and got passed along,
that the media ran along with. It was never really a plan. BUT, so
many people have talked to me about it, that now I am starting to
think “Wow, that may be a really great idea”.
Darrin: What was it like working with Ronnie James Dio as Dr,
x on Mindcrime II?
Geoff: Oh, it was fantastic. The guy is a brilliant
musician. And not just a great singer, of which he is, and a legend.
But he is actually a wonderful musician. He is very able, very
skilled, a pleasure to work with. I played him the song (The Chase)
over the phone, and when he came to the studio, just incredibly
prepared. He had a game plan in mind and it was a great one, and he
just really took over the character and made it his own. I love that
guy, Ronnie is one of the bright spots in my life. He has always
been a good friend and a supporter of our music, and given us an
introduction to an audience when we were first starting out, as one
of the first tours we ever went on. He also gave us an introduction
to the life of rock n roll on the road, which I will always
appreciate.
Darrin: Was he the one and only choice to play the role of
Dr, X? Was there a short list?
Geoff: No, he was the first guy I called. In fact, I
wanted his voice, because he has a certain “sinister” quality in his
delivery. I just thought that he could really play this character.
Luckily, when I called him, he picked up the phone. I just started
talking, “ I have this character, and this story, you might have
heard of Mindcrime, here is the story, it kinda goes like this, here
is the song…what do you think?” (laughs).
Darrin: Another aspect of Queensryche, is that it seems to
write to the current mood or disposition of the band. In the early
days, the band could get a very political feel to it. Promise Land
has always felt dark, and I remember there being turmoil in the band
and your loves at that time. Does the writing still go that way? Orr
does writing go more towards the scientific approach of riff and
hooks, built up in rehearsals?
Geoff: Oh, it is totally inspired by events. Usually
social events, things happening within the culture, I find to be
incredibly inspirational. I like to observe human nature, and see
what is going on with people and write from that perspective.
What we do, that works very well for us, is we sit around and
talk a lot. During rehearsals. We kind of talk ourselves into a
song. We will talk about a situation or an event, and explore it
that way, from different angles, and after an hour or so a riff will
come out of it, and out of the riff comes a rhythm comes sort of an
arrangement. It just kind of snowballs from there. It ALWAYS starts
with a conversation about a topic.
Darrin: Back in the beginning, when you were playing with The
Mob, I remember reading that perhaps metal, or that type of music
was not your first choice of what you wanted to be doing. What was
your original direction, if you will that you wanted to follow when
you got into the business?
Geoff: Well back then we did not have all of these catch
phrases, to describe music, the way it is done now. Everything is so
niche oriented now. It was all rock music. I was not necessarily not
into the metal thing, the phrase was not that wide spread yet, I was
really looking for musicians that could interact with me, in a way
that I thought I needed. Creatively. And a group of people that were
dedicated to making music and having a good work ethic, not being
into it for the drugs and the girls and all of that stuff. I wasn’t
into that at all. I just wanted really solid musicians that you
could count on, and that you could sit around with and have
conversations like “So what do you think of this homelessness
issue?” and they would have an actual opinion of it, and be able to
express that opinion.
Darrin: Songs that you wrote, so many years ago, things like
Empire, are still very relevant today. Musically, and message-wise,
still very current.
Geoff: I think what we did was write about issues that
were relevant to being in a society. We are always going to have
people that make a living selling drugs, there is no way to really
fight it. It is part of being human. We are always going to have a
police force. Those things are always going to be in place. It is
pretty well a no-brainer to talk about it. It is going to be a
timeless subject.
Darrin: What is your preference, the studio or the touring?
Geoff: Oh, both. The studio is a very creative
environment, it can be incredibly challenging, frustrating and
maddening at times. I really enjoy that part of it. I really like to
present what we create live, and playing in front of an audience to
get their reaction. It is really a balancing act and I really enjoy
both of them.
Darrin: Is there something in the music path, or other
avenues of the entertainment world that you would be interested in
trying out, aside from what you are doing now?
Geoff: Well, music really satisfies me in a lot of ways. I
would not mind doing a little bit of stage acting, musicals or
something like that. That is, if the right thing comes about. The
problem I have with Broadway and things like that, I honestly just
do not really like a lot of the music. I am just not into a lot of
the lyrics and the music. I will just be polite and say it is not my
cup of tea. (laughs)
Darrin: (laughs) Not big on the show tunes huh?
Geoff:
(laughs) No, not at all….Maybe if I wrote it myself, I would be
more into it, and take it in another direction of what’s out there.
Darrin: Hmmm, Mindcrime, The Musical?
Geoff: Hahaha…
Darrin: What do you like to do in your downtime? If you get a
chance to walk away from the music scene for the weekend, what does
Geoff Tate do?
Geoff: Well, I am kind of a family guy. I have 5 children,
well, three of them have moved out now on their own, but 2 are still
at home. My wife and I do a lot of activities with the kids, we go
on road trips, camping and we have a sailboat that we use to go
sailing around the islands north of Seattle here.
Darrin: Do you have any favorite cities or destinations that
you like to hit on tour?
Geoff: Oh gosh, there are so many. Man, I love playing
anywhere. We have played in some really weird places, we played
outdoor shows in Rio, in front of 225,000 people, we have done
little tiny 800 seat venues in Bucharest you name it. We play them
all and we love it each and every time. It is always different. It
is a different audience, and a different stage. That is the great
thing about touring, that you get to have all of these great
experiences, and it is never the same.
Darrin: Is there any touring plans for the band right now?
Geoff: We actually just finished a tour with Heaven and
Hell, across North America with Alice Cooper, and we are taking off
the first week of November, for a few weeks of touring in Europe,
Spain Portugal and the UK.
Darrin: What is next for the band? Is there new material on
the table for a new recording?
Geoff: Yup. We are in the writing process right now for a
new studio album. We are just about done writing and will try to
finish that up right before we get ready to hit the road, and in the
studio, recording in March. We hope to have the album out sometime
near late summer.
Darrin: Recording locally?
Geoff: Yes, right in Seattle. That works out great for us
these days. It is nice to be home during the recording process.
Darrin: Geoff, I appreciate your time with me this morning,
and I wish you all the best with the touring, the releases and the
upcoming album!
Geoff: You are welcome, it was my pleasure. |