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Darrin:
Rik, it seems like The Liberty Manifesto has been in the
works/talked about/anticipated for about 5 years now…. How long in
actuality was the project from conception to delivery?
Rik: Mike & I started writing in mid ’04, I think. We
delivered masters in the fall of ’07. We were both doing a lot of
multi-tasking, and had many family things crop up throughout the
time period.
Darrin: How was this project born? Who initiated it? You or
Mike Shotton?
Rik: I’d say Mike was the one who was keen to do some
writing together, and then who suggested we collaborate on rock
stuff. Mike had originally had me out to his studio to play on some
other projects he was producing. That was maybe late in 2003, and in
2004, we spent some time jamming on a few things that we had
mutually found intriguing from traded ‘idea’ tapes.
Darrin: Bottom line, what are your personal feelings on the
outcome of the project? Did you achieve what you set out to do?
Rik: I try not to think like that too much anymore. I set
out to have an adventure and see what happens. I set out to try and
get along with the person I’m collaborating with, and let the music
lead me, and give it my best shot. I don’t think there’s any such
thing as ‘perfect’ – and the challenge of music, of the art & craft
of it, is infinite. So I try to remain humble, in the process, and
also in the final analysis - that’s my bottom line. Did I have fun?
Yep. Am I proud of the work? Yep. Would I do it again? If enough
people remain interested in it, I might … for I was always
constantly facing the question – “Rik – when will you rock again, if
ever?” So now that curiosity angle has been satisfied. Will those
people now decide to support that kind of work? Or will they just
file-share it? I’d probably take another kick at it with Mike, sure,
if we can get a decent paycheck for our time & energy.
Darrin: The entire product is very slick in the visual realm
also. A very cool Airtime logo, and CD cover. Who took care of the
graphic/branding part of the project for you?
Rik: The logo was something I sketched out, and Jeanine
Leech from DoublePlay Designs realized it for me. Then Jim Bullotta,
from Smash Designs, who does
my website, and who’s done lots of stuff, from Van Halen packaging
to websites to you-name-it, did the CD package.
Darrin: If you had to pick a track that you would consider
the heart and soul of the project, what would that track be? Why?
Rik: There are a few things. The ‘epic’ track is Liberty,
which lent its title to the CD package title as well, as the song
deals with the complicated responsibilities that we all have towards
freedom, and democracy – and Mike and I were functioning as indies,
with our heads full of lots of baggage, setting out new & fresh once
again. The instrumental “Transmutation” was musically very
satisfying & fun – close to one of the first things that we worked
up together, writing and playing off the studio floor … The two
‘single’ type songs that define the mainstream-ish accessibility of
the band would probably be “Midnight” as the hard rock side, and
“Find Your Way” as the melodic side [although early reaction was
strong to “River”, so that raises an interesting point … ] Y’see –
you’re asking me, as if my opinion matters. But we live in an age
where the customer rules, and the consumer defines ‘results’ … What
will stand the test of time? What emerges in collective
consciousness? Maybe nothin’ … or maybe nothing that I would ever
have picked. I don’t like to have to play games of prediction
anymore. One should only be so lucky as to have market forces
formulate a direction, and I wouldn’t have indulged in the different
directions, and the different aspects of heart & soul, that exist in
Airtime, if I hadn’t felt genuine about any of them. We are now in
the phase where reviewers and critics will have opinions, and maybe
champion some things, and maybe downgrade other things. I don’t get
to pick much of anything now. My picking and choosing, my
considerations, are done with. The music has become public
‘property’ now, and – in this modern digital world – the equation is
even more out of my hands than it has ever been. The odds of the
music becoming lost in the digital maelstrom are stacked against all
but the super-duper heavyweight priority acts that have heavily
funded machines behind ‘em.
Darrin: What was it like working/writing with Mike Shotton?
What did Mike bring to the table that you had previously not
experienced in writing and recording an album?
Rik: Tons of energy – an unbounded appetite for
experimentation. It’s hard to get Mike to focus, sometimes – he
loves tangents maybe even more than I do. But he’s talented, too –
great singer, larger-than-life personality, multi-instrumentalist in
terms of demoing up ideas. One of his great strengths is in the area
of engineer / producer. He sure knows his way around ProTools.
Darrin: Aside from recording to PC, what different
technologies and methods were used in this recording, vs your
earlier rock recordings? Did you play with any new effects,
techniques etc?
Rik: It was all new. But I’m fairly old school. To me,
it’s about capturing performances – not necessarily making
technology be the guiding force. I used my Yamaha Pacifica, and a
Nathan East 5 string bass [playing bass on every track was a new one
on me] … I borrowed some guitar amps, but it’s essentially the Vox
Tonelab board, using mostly Marshall Plexi sounds.
Darrin: Your guitar chops are still so fresh and unique,
after all of this time away from writing in the rock n roll frame of
mind. Has the smooth jazz, blues, classical, folk and other styles
you have concentrated on during your solo career, maintained that
amazing rock technique that you are so admired for?
Rik: I don’t know. I don’t really set out trying to be
“amazing” – it’s not a pursuit of gymnastic or pyrotechnical
technique. I just write, and play, and do what I do, and try to be
the best me that I can. It’s not easy – I was very happy to have
Michael as an editing surgeon on many things we were doing. But I
think the range of my approach in different styles has helped me
with perspectives, yeah. Good music is good music, no matter what
style it is. It has to do with dynamics and expression – feel – and
I think I have a better sense of what I like and don’t like [what’s
good and what needs to be done again] now that I’m older.
Darrin: On that note, how have you kept your voice in such
great shape over the years? Did you find it a challenge in the
recording process to get those songs down vocally?
Rik: Yes – it was a challenge. And Shotton is someone who
can sing higher than me – and he’s a younger man. But it’s also good
to have a producer that understands that physical process, too – and
he knew when he could push me, and when he had to back off ,and when
he had a good take, and when he knew we’d have to try it another
day. As the sessions evolved, thankfully, it got a bit easier to
take advantage of good days.
I don’t smoke, and don’t drink alcohol too much. Maybe my voice
stayed strong because it got so much abuse over the years from me
coaching on baseball diamonds and soccer pitches. It’s probably more
just good genetics and dumb luck.
Darrin: How was the experience, having the disc mastered over
at Metalworks? Was there any nostalgia in working on a rock project
over there?
Rik: It had a bit of a surreal air when it first started,
but the people there were nice, and I know the manager from way back
[cuz
he
used to work at Phase One, where Triumph made a studio production
deal long before we even thought of building Metalworks]. Nick
Blagona did a great job, so it was a great experience. I’d also
like to think that we brought him final mixes that were very good. I
didn’t think of it as nostalgic – it was a new experience.
Totally new gear, new room [for me], new personnel. There were some
moments, but it was also a great relief, in some ways, to
re-establish an acquaintance with Gil Moore, and to reconcile
with him. There had been too much negative baggage for too long, and
it was good to have a mutual agreement to get rid of the baggage and
move forward. Having Mike Shotton and I in as guests, to master at
the Metalworks as guests of Gil, was a classy gesture that I really
appreciated.
Darrin: Are you looking at opportunities to perform this
material live?
Rik: If & when the opportunities present themselves, I’ll
look at them. It’s premature to think about that at this point.
Darrin: Was it difficult to find the distribution partners
that you were comfortable with in Europe and Japan? In turn, are you
happy in the decision to not fully market this project on your own
as your previous releases have been?
Rik: We did go through some weird shopping stuff, and of
course the music business is in complete disarray – perhaps even
annihilation, as I’ve known it. I’m grateful to have Marquee and
Escape doing their respective things in their respective territories
– let’s hope that they can provide some market muscle, and gain some
traction, that would be impossible for an indie act, trying to
market globally. But we’ve kept our own North American rights, and
that’s because we couldn’t find any offer that made any sense to us.
Which doesn’t make me bitter or anything – the state of the biz is …
well … it’s destroyed, and what will rise from the ashes? It’s a
sub-theme of the album, actually … There is so little interest, in
the music business, in rock music that comes from the classic,
melodic, hard, slightly progressive territory. But there are
actually plenty of people out there who seem interested in it. So
maybe our partners will know how to get us some profile in that
community, and we can use that to find that audience in North
America too.
Darrin: Now that Airtime is officially out the door as to
speak, what is next on your plate? Is Marco finally going to get
completed, or are you going to focus on performing in 2008?
Rik: I’m going to try and finish Marco, and do another
Troubadours CD with Dave in the smooth jazz territory. I have a new
relationship with Gibson guitars and Traynor amps and I hope to
build on that, and Shotton and I will probably start writing some
new rock stuff soon too. But first up is – Mike is going to help
produce & engineer to get the Marco thing finished
Darrin: I wish you, Mike, Spud Wharton, Dave Dunlop and
the rest of your supporting cast the very best of luck with Airtime,
and all other projects and ventures in 2008. Thanks for again,
taking your time to answer my questions!
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